The idea for this interview—or rather, a double interview: mine with Iryna Shuvalova and Iryna Shuvalova with me—came about suddenly. I recall having a conversation with Kateryna Kazimirova about poetry, favorite authors, and the importance of hearing diverse voices in the broad field of Ukrainian poetry. It was then that we realized the need to document it, to turn it into a text. Later, this idea resurfaced: in May 2024, Iryna Shuvalova and I had a joint tour of Italy, and during our conversations between performances and train rides, we touched upon many topics that we decided to discuss in this interview—some of them summarizing what we had spoken about, while others only hinting at points of contact for future discussions. After all, no conversation is ever exhaustive; instead, it serves as an important space for understanding and dialogue.